Ep. 8c’s topic is irresponsible laxity on the part of some orthodox preterists when it comes to the issue of hyperpreterism, specifically, very prominent and influential preterist Gary DeMar of American Vision. There are two goals for this episode. First, to warn people to be wary of Gary DeMar and others who might blur the line between orthodoxy and heresy through passive complicity and to see the harm that such behaviour can cause. Secondarily, it would be to get Gary to change his ways on this subject, and if not, for those who support him to bring some pressure to bear until he does for the sake of the Church or at the very least to be completely cognizant that Gary has not been a champion of the historic faith in areas completely relevant to his ministry.
Links and Resources (Repeated from Part One)
“Grave” Heresy: Hyperpreterism and the Response of the Church
Frosty the Strawman ~ A Rebuttal of Hyperpreterist Samuel Frost
Gary DeMar’s appearance on The Narrow Mind with Pastor Gene Cook and My appearance on The Narrow Mind with Gene Cook ~ these are the first two files under the audio entries on that page
My PreteristSite Blog Entries that are relevant to the discussion
- The Four Kingdoms of Daniel ~ see image for screenshot of the advertisement on American Vision for this book as a recommended resource for those wanting to refute dispensationalism
- Gary DeMar misrepresents Orthodoxy
- DeMar’s a bit Fuzzy on the One
- DeMar leaves the rez and second coming behind again…
- Not Slippery at All ~ a blog entry regarding the interview
- Dodgeball ~ another blog entry regarding the interview
Tim Martin who was a hyperpreterist guest on Gary DeMar’s show where they played kissy-face with each other posted this comment on this blog (which I subsequently unapproved.) Tim’s email address and IP identifier were blurred out to protect his privacy.
Hopefully Gary sees what hyperpreterists really think about him if he is a committed orthodox preterist.
Here is a banner ad currently appearing on a heretical preterist site. Has Gary asked for it to be removed? I doubt it, he participates there (at least as of last year or so) where people are led into heresy on a daily basis.
Here is another example that was just brought to my attention. When asked about favourite reading materials hyperpreterist Ed Burley gushes, “Anything By Gary DeMar is awesome!” I teach all the same prophetic material that Gary does but NO hyperpreterist will EVER say “Anything by Dee Dee Warren is awesome!” Thank God.
Are you concerned about this? Contact Gary at American Vision and urge him to disassociate himself from hyperpreterists and to defend the historical doctrine of the resurrection.
Just in case Gary DeMar STILL thinks his interview of Tim Martin about his book, “Beyond Creation Science” was ay-ok as if the book was only about “old earth creationism” — listen to this OTHER interview with Tim Martin as he discusses his book with his fellow hyperpreterists. Martin makes it clear that his views are hopelessly intertwined with his hyperpreterism:
listen to audio or download mp3
Roderick all one has to do is look at the comment that Martin tried to post on my blog BEFORE we even did these shows. His post wasn’t even on topic. The topic was the role of men and women in the church, and since I felt that my husband has the authority to forbid me from appearing on video - that’s cause I’m a “partial preterist”!
Well I guess that means there are no complementarian hyperpreterists out there. Well come to think of it, since universalism is so prevelant - heck, forget the roles of men and women and just be a good metrosexual.